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Re: Shifting demographics

Posted By: Mike
Date: Thursday, 31 January 2002, at 10:19 a.m.

In Response To: Re: Shifting demographics (inspector)

I was referring to the High School rating earlier this month.The most recent rating was for elementary and middle schools, where we did do well against the neighboring towns. However, keep in mind that you can't compare Fort Lee to the surrounding towns. You must compare them against the other FG rated towns. Cliffside and Ridgefield and I believe Leonia are lower rated socioeconomic status towns.

It goes beyond the school issue. Diversity is great. But if the current trends continue, Koreans will make up an ever larger percentage of the town's population (currently over 40% in schools, something like 30-35% overall) and we won't have diversity anymore than they do in Pal Park. When non-Asians look for a town to buy a house and are willing to pay what it costs to buy in Fort Lee, they will compare it to other towns in that price range. Many will make the decision to buy in a town that is not as heavily Asian. That becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy and the trend grows. Just take a look at the number of Asian real estate agents in town now. I'm quite sure that the vast majority (probably close to 100%) of their clientele is Asian.

This is a sensitive issue and I certainly don't want to come off as a racist. Towns and times change, and we can't and shouldn't unfairly discriminate. But the truth is that at least for a generation or so, Koreans stick to themselves and create an aura of separation in the towns they live in because of language and cultural differences. It would be the same with any other immigrant group, be they Greeks, Russians, or Orthodox Jews(regarding the latter, see what is going on in Tenafly with the eruv controversy). People want a stable, friendly town where there is a sense of unity and belonging. When a town becomes a magnet for any small ethnic group,the potential for that group to disrupt the cohesiveness of the town is real.

I have no answers, but I think the issue is real.

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Shifting demographics
Mike -- Monday, 21 January 2002, at 12:04 p.m.

Re: Shifting demographics
inspector -- Thursday, 31 January 2002, at 8:56 a.m.

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Mike -- Thursday, 31 January 2002, at 10:19 a.m.

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carol -- Saturday, 2 February 2002, at 7:06 p.m.

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Mike -- Monday, 4 February 2002, at 12:12 p.m.

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councilman tom meyers -- Saturday, 9 February 2002, at 7:19 p.m.

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Interested citizen -- Monday, 11 February 2002, at 11:40 a.m.

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Resident -- Monday, 11 February 2002, at 2:08 p.m.

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councilman tom meyers -- Monday, 11 February 2002, at 10:52 p.m.

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carol -- Thursday, 14 February 2002, at 11:41 p.m.

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inspector -- Friday, 15 February 2002, at 6:53 a.m.

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OBSERVER -- Wednesday, 17 April 2002, at 9:51 p.m.

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Old Timer -- Monday, 20 May 2002, at 7:49 p.m.

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guamanian -- Saturday, 27 March 2004, at 8:40 p.m.

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House hunter -- Tuesday, 30 March 2004, at 9:17 a.m.

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this thread is straight out of bizarro world -- Sunday, 6 June 2004, at 2:51 a.m.

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Long time Fort Leeite -- Wednesday, 9 June 2004, at 11:58 a.m.

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Long time Fort Leeite -- Thursday, 24 June 2004, at 5:12 p.m.

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Linda Elaine -- Wednesday, 28 July 2004, at 9:29 a.m.

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Long time Fort Leeite -- Thursday, 29 July 2004, at 3:57 p.m.

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observer -- Tuesday, 24 August 2004, at 11:36 a.m.

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Joe Piccio -- Monday, 15 November 2004, at 11:22 a.m.

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Old timer -- Monday, 15 November 2004, at 5:35 p.m.

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Joe Piccio -- Friday, 3 December 2004, at 5:00 p.m.

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Old timer -- Monday, 6 December 2004, at 9:36 a.m.

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Ralph -- Monday, 6 December 2004, at 11:15 a.m.

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Old timer -- Wednesday, 8 December 2004, at 1:24 p.m.

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counselor -- Tuesday, 4 January 2005, at 12:02 a.m.

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dave9x -- Tuesday, 25 January 2005, at 1:33 p.m.

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Another voice -- Thursday, 27 January 2005, at 3:25 p.m.

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dave9x -- Monday, 31 January 2005, at 2:43 p.m.

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Another voice -- Wednesday, 2 February 2005, at 4:19 p.m.

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dave9x -- Thursday, 3 February 2005, at 11:36 a.m.

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Interested bystander -- Friday, 4 February 2005, at 9:12 a.m.

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dave9x -- Friday, 4 February 2005, at 9:55 a.m.

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Googler -- Friday, 4 February 2005, at 10:50 a.m.

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dave9x -- Wednesday, 9 February 2005, at 1:43 p.m.

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Googler -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 5:16 p.m.

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dave9x -- Friday, 11 February 2005, at 8:24 p.m.

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Googler -- Monday, 14 February 2005, at 12:56 p.m.

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dave9x -- Wednesday, 16 February 2005, at 8:36 a.m.

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Tom Meyers -- Sunday, 13 February 2005, at 3:18 p.m.

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Long time Fort lee resident -- Wednesday, 23 February 2005, at 9:12 a.m.

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Tom -- Sunday, 27 February 2005, at 10:21 a.m.

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WTF -- Tuesday, 10 May 2005, at 10:33 a.m.

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MADONNA SCHOOL KID -- Monday, 28 February 2005, at 12:35 p.m.

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MADONNA SCHOOL KID -- Monday, 28 February 2005, at 12:39 p.m.

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Linda Elaine -- Wednesday, 28 July 2004, at 9:25 a.m.

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Mike -- Tuesday, 30 March 2004, at 1:17 p.m.

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Robin -- Thursday, 1 April 2004, at 12:07 a.m.

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sharon -- Monday, 5 April 2004, at 4:15 p.m.

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Mike -- Tuesday, 6 April 2004, at 8:59 a.m.

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sharon -- Monday, 12 April 2004, at 3:24 p.m.

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Linda Elaine -- Tuesday, 20 April 2004, at 3:55 p.m.

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Mike -- Wednesday, 21 April 2004, at 12:07 p.m.

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Mike -- Tuesday, 25 May 2004, at 1:49 p.m.

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Fort Lee-ite -- Friday, 7 June 2002, at 8:55 a.m.

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Old timer -- Friday, 7 June 2002, at 2:55 p.m.

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Old timer -- Monday, 10 June 2002, at 5:56 p.m.

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Old timer -- Tuesday, 11 June 2002, at 6:26 p.m.

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COP LOVER -- Wednesday, 12 June 2002, at 9:09 a.m.

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Interested citizen -- Friday, 15 February 2002, at 8:45 a.m.

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carol -- Sunday, 17 February 2002, at 10:41 a.m.

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tapestrybabe -- Wednesday, 26 February 2003, at 11:53 a.m.

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AN OBSERVER -- Saturday, 16 February 2002, at 8:12 p.m.

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councilman tom meyers -- Sunday, 17 February 2002, at 1:16 p.m.

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Dennis -- Thursday, 20 June 2002, at 3:16 a.m.

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COUNCILMAN TOM MEYERS -- Thursday, 20 June 2002, at 11:48 p.m.

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Dennis -- Friday, 21 June 2002, at 12:20 a.m.

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COUNCILMAN TOM MEYERS -- Friday, 21 June 2002, at 12:34 a.m.

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omg! -- Friday, 21 June 2002, at 9:26 a.m.

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COUNCILMAN TOM MEYERS -- Friday, 21 June 2002, at 5:29 p.m.

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omg! -- Monday, 24 June 2002, at 9:06 a.m.

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COUNCILMAN TOM MEYERS -- Monday, 24 June 2002, at 5:57 p.m.

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David M. Coyte -- Tuesday, 9 July 2002, at 10:19 a.m.

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JUST ME. -- Wednesday, 10 July 2002, at 9:43 p.m.

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Dennis -- Tuesday, 16 July 2002, at 12:57 a.m.

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California Kid -- Thursday, 16 December 2004, at 9:49 p.m.

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councilman tom meyers -- Monday, 11 February 2002, at 6:09 p.m.

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AN OBSERVER -- Monday, 11 February 2002, at 9:36 p.m.

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salest -- Saturday, 25 May 2002, at 1:29 a.m.

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Jean-Marie -- Saturday, 25 May 2002, at 8:24 a.m.

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Mike -- Tuesday, 28 May 2002, at 4:55 p.m.

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Linda Elaine -- Tuesday, 12 February 2002, at 1:01 p.m.

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Resident -- Wednesday, 13 February 2002, at 9:32 a.m.

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Ethnic Resident -- Monday, 4 February 2002, at 12:45 p.m.

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Mike -- Tuesday, 5 February 2002, at 8:56 a.m.

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Actually.... -- Friday, 23 April 2004, at 8:41 a.m.

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Connie -- Friday, 23 April 2004, at 2:06 p.m.

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AN OBSERVER -- Saturday, 2 February 2002, at 7:24 p.m.

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the truth -- Monday, 4 February 2002, at 10:33 p.m.

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Mike -- Tuesday, 5 February 2002, at 8:48 a.m.

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the truth -- Tuesday, 5 February 2002, at 11:52 p.m.

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